Does anyone know if mint and menthol are considered flavors, for the purpose of the upcoming ban. I always thought they weren't but on the radio today, I thought I heard it say that they will be banned too.
E-cigarette cancer warning as new study finds mint and menthol flavour risk
The study of menthol and peppermint vapes revealed high concentrations of a carcinogenic additive called pulegone that US watchdogs recently banned in food.
The pulegone additive, a constituent of oil extracts from mint plants, is believed to cause liver cancer if absorbed in high enough quantities.
Mint, menthol e-cigarette liquids high in cancer-causing compound: study - Reuters
The findings, published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine
Vape Pods Taste Minty Thanks to Extremely High Levels of a Chemical Banned in Food
But despite all the evidence that pulegone is carcinogenic and causes liver toxicity, researchers found the chemical is present in mint and menthol-flavored e-cig liquid at levels far above a safe threshold.
This study is the latest in a growing pile of proof to how little-regulated e-cigs and vapes are. To illustrate that, researchers compared pulegone levels in mint and menthol e-cig liquid to levels in menthol cigarettes. At all levels of daily consumption, pulegone exposure from vape pods are significantly higher than exposure from cigarettes, with rates ranging from 44 to 1,608 times higher.
So much for Juul's best seller - menthol.
I smoked menthol cigarettes for 45+ years. Never cared for the taste or smell of cigarette tobacco, but I liked my menthol. When I tried Blu ecigs, the tobacco didn't taste like tobacco, it just tasted "meh". The menthol flavor was more meh with a mentholesque hint, and they were a freaking hassle. When I finally realized this weird vaporizer shop across the street from the hospital and next to the ambulance company actually sold E-cigarettes, not those things you steam up a room with Vick's Vapo-Rub, I went in and told them about my experience with Blu's and asked if they had anything better. I walked out with an eGo starter kit, some fruit flavors, and some menthol and mint juice to mix with them. Success! Got my menthol/nicotine fix and was able to put down the combustibles! For a year and a half I've been doing the same thing only DYI: Fruit and menthol and/or mint. Just had to have that menthol feel or it didn't do the trick for me.
Last week I got a bunch of new flavors from MFS. I mixed up some desert coffee and a key lime pie concoction, no menthol or mint, and it was GOOD!
Now if only somebody would tell this stupid spell checker there is no "u" in flavor!
Hi,
I just read reports that pulegone, which is found in peppermint oil and is a carcinogen, are found in "minty" e-cigs.
Vape Pods Taste Minty Thanks to Extremely High Levels of a Chemical Banned in Food
High levels of cancer-causing chemical found in mint and menthol e-cigarettes: Study
This causes concern as I've been mixing my own juice using menthol crystals and PG, VG. I wonder if pulegone is found in menthol crystals too. As I understand, menthol crystal is derived from peppermint, just like pulegone, but that doesn't mean menthol has pulegone does it? It seems menthol has its own molecular structure.
Thanks
The Canadian federal government published guidance for the federal flavor ban in their latest Canada Gazette Part I (https://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2021/2021-06-19/html/reg2-eng.html)
The federal government is proposing a prohibition on all flavors other than Tobacco, Mint and Menthol.
They define "flavor" as anything that has a sensory attribute in inducing youth to vape - this means that if it smells like strawberries, it's banned. If it smells like cream, it's banned. If it smells like anything other than tobacco, mint or menthol, it is prohibited for sale in all of Canada.
There is still time to act.
Calgary MP Tom Kmiec has introduced a petition - If you are Canadian, please sign it!
You can find the petition at https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-3362
After you fill in your information, they will send you an email with a confirmation link, you MUST press it for your entry to be entered.
sup, thanks for reading . I'm vaping for 3 years now, never had problem until now. I taste saltiness on my tongue after vaping for more than 10 seconds. I thought it might be coil so I changed them all. Maybe juice so i tried different ones different flavor. same thing.
I vaped for 3 years just Pomango and Menthol. Never had that problem. Recently I got into DIY Mixing so i ordered 14 different flavors and started experimenting. Mostly Peach, Mango, sweet mango CAP, Green Apple, Pomegranate. never went over % than whats recommended. After sweet Mango flavor CAP 5% solo flavor it started. I thought maybe its the mango flavor so Itried others and same thing, even Menthol. So its definitely something with my taste. I tried to eat lollipop candy and its there but barely noticeable because of the sugar from lolipop. Hmmmm.... Is it because i started experimenting with other flavors and I have so called"Vapers tongue " thingy?
When first time I tried mango and green apple , OMG it was spectacular taste!!!after few weeks now just salt mix with touch of sweetness and a litlle flavor on my tongue and I do let it go thru my nose and stuff too , to get most out of vaping experience, menthol is the strongest from them all that stays but its not the same as it was few weeks ago.
anybody had same issue? I found the thread from 2011 the guy had same issue.
18 days vaping - all juices now tasting salty sweet, but not in a good way.
I do feel,menthol,peach and other fruits flavor for 3-6 sec just after 10 seconds it becomes kinda salty on my tongue and lets see, umm upper patella of the jaw you call it? yeah... and im loosing flavor, very frustrating....
anyone can explain that or had similar experience?
thanks
What will become of ECF in the aftermath? If flavors are banned and refillables get banned as well, would discussions about such subjects be allowed to continue? Where would the forum go from there?... monetizing the site might also be more difficult. I would hate to lose such a valuable resource.
I am doing it right now, I am not too in to menthol flavours but I coincidentally ordered a cherry menthol a couple days back and received it today. And it just so happens that I have the flu for the first time in years!
The menthol is obviously great for clearing mucus and sinuses, but on to the less obvious, when I used to smoke I would have a ciggy regardless of how I felt because I needed one, it always made me feel much worse. Now I wonder if vaping any juice actual has the potential to make you feel better, as I seem to recall reading somewhere than it can kill bacteria in the mouth/throat... Have you ever vaped whilst ill? How did it make you feel? Can it improve symptoms?
Happy vaping!
Sam
Our wonderful governor banned everything and I need some stuff, cotton and pods. Anyone shipping to a banned state?
The latest news coming out today is that Trump will sign next week to enforce a Flavor Ban, leaving only Tobacco and Menthol flavors. Nobody seems quite sure if anything else is affected.
Please contact your Senators and Congressmen Today, send emails, send tweets whatever you can do, do it.
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Hello all
The vaping manufacturers need to get together and start leaving extra room in the flavorless juices, then sell the flavor concentrates. You can add this to your bottle and voila, you can still get your favorite juices. There is no law prohibiting that, as you can't vape the concentrates by themselves. It would work, at least until they banned the concentrates. The UK does this with nicotine now. Just a thought.