Here We Go....

Apart from the problem of getting juice in the future my problem now is that total strangers are starting to come up to me and just say ¨that .... will kill you¨ or something similar. It is really starting to annoy me.

It doesn´t matter that I haven´t had even one cig in over 3 years (after 40 years of smoking) and save over $3000 a year. Nothing matters because they have watched the nightly news and know best.

I am not a conspiracy type person but it makes my think of the expression "follow the money."

I make my own unflavored juice but I think this is just the beginning. I think I will put away another years worth of nic.

I hope you all are having a great day.  


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Back To Celebrate And Looking For A Little Info

Hi All,

I passed the 4 year mark last month without even one cig thanks to this group after 40 years of smoking.

Here´s my situation. I have been using an e-go type tank with a 1.8 atomizer stuck of a 40 watt iStick. I have 5 of them that I rotate around so I am never without. It´s been fine. I get use to something and don´t want to change. I make a batch of flavorless juice that last 3 months and I´m all set.

Anyway, along comes covid and after a while I needed more atomizers and I couldn´t find them. I picked up some tank that uses a 0.3 om thing and put it on my Istick 40. I have been using it for a month or so. It was a big change. Before it was mouth to lung and now it is like taking a big .... hit like when I was young haha

Now I´ve found the 1.8 atomizers again but I´m not sure which way to go. I do know I want to keep using the 5 Istick 40´s I have. I am am way out of date on what is available. I do know I am sick of 2ml tanks. I am sick of filling them all the time.

All thoughts welcome and thanks for being here 4 years ago when I had had enough of smoking.  

Two Years Smoke-free Today !

Yup, two years since I set fire to a tobacco tube, after 46 years of a 2 pack-a-day habit starting at age 14 ...

My dentist in Mexico gave me a cigalike after pulling two molars on May 10th 2013, it worked for me from day one ...

I am a practiced stealth vaper, enjoy my new hobby everywhere and anywhere with complete satisfaction. At home and in my car I enjoy 50 percent VG juice and a modest cloud. But in public, recognizing the "brittle people" who have been thoroughly conditioned to openly attack anything that "looks like smoking", I vape 100 percent PG juice with total impunity. No evidence, no "crime" ...

After two years of vaping, my lung function has vastly improved, and Parkinsons symptoms are noticeably diminished. Now retired and with more energy that I have had in years, I can enjoy my free time thanks to 24 months of detox from tobacco additives ...

A salute to all of those on the front lines of the battle to protect vaping, and to expose the blatantly false media campaign to demonize this life-saving innovation ...

Join CASAA and make a contribution to a noble cause !  

Can't Get My Friend To Stop Smoking No Matter What I Do!

I've given her some of the best of the best gear, a ton of DIY juice in just about every flavor of the rainbow and every nic level imaginable and she still won't give up the stinkies!

She seems to enjoy the flavors and enjoys vaping, she just continues to smoke as well.

It was so easy for me to switch to vaping (and that was 6 years ago using stick bats and 510 atties with blue foam after smoking for 30+ years!), why does it seem just not to "take" for some folks??  

Lt Vaper, Long Time No See

I joined this forum 8 yrs ago. After a couple of years of learning and contributing, I moved on, continued to check back every once in a while but never stopped vaping. I very rarely buy premixed juice, maybe 2-3 times in the past 5 years so when all these lungs issues came up and every other news story was about how vaping was going to kill you, I knew that I was probably OK since I make my own juice. Then it started to sound like there was actual medical proof that vaping was leading to serious lung, heart, etc, disease. Damn near threw all my gear out after reading news stories from several reputable resources confirming my worst fear.

Then I decided to come back here. I can usually pick out the BS pretty quickly and my hackles are already up from having to fend off endless well meaning "you have got to stop vaping!!! " conversations and obvious postings of the news stories on FB .

I grant you that I want all these warnings to be wrong because I love vaping, I really do. It does not make me cough, it doesn't stink up the house and I was pretty confident that it was saving my life. So I'm really kinda POed about all this crap. And I know I'm not alone. I want honest answers and that's what I came here for. After reading just a few threads I'm feeling more relaxed (or is it because I'm sucking on the nautilus mini like a milk shake...). I'm certainly not going to throw anything out...just yet. Anyway, thanks for still being here, nice to drop in .  

The American Media Did A "stellar" Job Demonizing Vaping - Congrats!

I always wanted to make this thread. Here I go, 'cuz I've had it up to "here"..........

I'm a member of a lot of different forums that aren't vaping (or even smoking) related. And let me tell you, people freakin' HAAAAAAAAAAAAATE vapers.

It's seems like out in the real world it's not nearly as bad because people aren't anonymous. But on the non-vaping internet, it's totally different. Smokers and non-smokers alike believe and parrot all the stupid lies the media has spread over the years...all of them. They did a great job at brainwashing (as they always do).

On occasion, when it fits, I'll either mention that I'm a vaper or, if someone brings up being a smoker and having to/wanting to quit, I'll throw a suggestion their way to consider switching to vaping and hooooly COW you would think that I mentioned the most terrible thing a person could ever mention, ever!

People will attack with all the usual lies...
That 'll kill ya! What're you stupid?! Those batteries blow up ALL.THE.TIME! Are you crazy?! Didn't you hear about all those people dying from vaping! (referring to "EVALI" and black market cartridges....LAST YEAR).
That's just as bad as smoking, probably worse! You better quit NOW!
Didn't you hear? That stuff has antifreeze in it, stupid! ...on and on and on. And it's no use arguing, their minds are set and it's all "facts" because why would the media lie? Right? And after all, it looks like smoke, so it's gotta be at least just as bad, right?

Meanwhile here at ECF we're vapin' away, some of 10+ years, most of us probably at least 5 years, without issues at all. Many of us even with stories of how vaping either saved our lives or improved them greatly (with some doctors even agreeing ins some cases).

But you can't tell them that. NO SIREE! THEY KNOW the truth! You're just an idiot who knows nothing and inhales poison! They heard it on the news, the talk shows, social media, blah, blah, blah. That makes them experts!

They would probably be a lot more open to me talking about and suggesting illicit drug use than [GASP] vaping nicotine

It's a real shame and I just don't see this changing because it's not just misinformation, it really is brainwashing.

So I gotta hand it to ya, American Media,
you did a GREAT..JOB! Congratulations!
You earned every dollar you made from it, I'm sure, you losers.

Well, that's the end of my rant.

Thank you, and have a happy 2021

VAPE 'EM WHILE YA GOT 'EM  

Keeping Track With A Growing Number Of Tanks-how Does One Do It?

Hi, let me preface this question with an explanation beforehand, that there are two of us here Vaping. With one person, its easy to organize it all but with two, you have to keep track of whats what, which belongs to #1 person and what belongs to #2 person.
We each have several tanks and keep to our own. We tend to separate our gear.

I am on my iMac 24-7 and if not on that, I have a smart phone synched to both my iMac and a Macbook pro and I have a synched note pad file that tells me which tank has what flavour in it-generaly by which mod its on.
Thats easy for me to do because i rarely change the mods.
But as we are drawn both, to the heavily dark covered sweet ones, we also go through coils a bit faster than average.
( I just went sub ohm and am learning to make coils tomorrow)
but because at one point we had one really dark juice burn out authentic coils in less than 2 days, I began to write down the dates of new coils for the tanks so at any point i could look back and know when it had last been changed. At the risk of sounding really neurotic, I began doing that ONLY, because I was finishing up a few boxes of Aspire coils I had purchased at my local B + M store that I was sure were fakes. I wanted to make sure they were before ending my patronage there. I also had boxes I had purchased from FT and wanted to be 100% positive they were authentic, which they proved to be and this was the only way with two of us here I could keep control of which ones were which in order to watch them closely.

The problem is with my husband.
He keeps absconding with my new mods.
If I like one and buy two at once, I have to hear him rant and rave about who much money i am spending.
After that 30 minute rant, he will then finally stop long enough to Vape off of the new one and suddenly I lose my new gear as he becomes too attached to it and then suggests that maybe, this "one time' he was wrong and sends me out to buy a second mod, just like the first.

Yes, we have been together 30 years, I know him well


But in the course of this, somehow he has ended up with about 7 mods and tanks on top while i am down to 2.
I ordered a great Vamo 9 clone off of FT, heard the "rant" so ordered that one secretly without telling him....LOL
Didn't want to have to listen to him rant about it on and off for 3 weeks until it was delivered.
I made the mistake of telling him 2 days before it arrived and after looking at the photo of it, he suddenly began to talk about "his" new mod.
/sighs...I knew i should have ordered two

So I ordered another one on March 3rd but typical of FT,, its still not yet packed and sent out so I await it impatiently for a few weeks.

In the course of all of this, since he's great at absconding with mine, and he now has 7...lol.....the problem he, he cant keep track of which flavours are which and at least once a day one is thrust under me so as i can guess for him which flavour he's got.

So after all of that, I am c curious to hear what other couples, or roommates do. Or for that matter, single Vapers that have a large collection.
I just read a post in the "Over 50 Vapers swinging on a porch" or some such title, and there was a quoted post from 2012 on the first page that reminded me that i needed to figure out a way to organize all of these.
The woman had been Vaping for one year and had already amassed 30 tanks with all different flavours in them. No mention was given as to how she managed to remember which one was which.

So bearing in mind that I am willing to type lists or keep things organized that way, but the hubby isn't, how do some of you do it that aren't as fanatical about it as I am?
You cant tell me that you can just look at them for most of ours, once steeped, etc, look the same anyway.
(BTW, this organization extends to Steeping Dates/Purchase dates of each Juice)



I suspect that some might just roll their eyes and suggest I am thinking too much about it and they may be right but i am dealing with the extra problem that one of us is very organized and the other one, not at all. It adds some complications to the mix


Thank you in Advance. I apologize for the length. Years of being a Legal Assistant makes for an extremely fast typist. This took me less than 2 minutes I suspect to type. Many typing two sentences would take longer than I to type all of this out-lest anyone wish to comment upon its length and time typing  

Please Help!

Hey everyone!! Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. I need help, I bought a DIY ejuice kit from Central Vapors which came with alot of stuff, but I have no clue how to do this!! I have downloaded 6 DIY calculators and I like high Vg juice usually 100vg but in this case I'm just doing 80vg/20pg, 2 flavors and then the 100vg Nicotine. But everytime I try to put what I want it always says it doesn't add up or error. So can someone please tell me the best DIY Calculator for beginners. I have vaped for 7 years but I have always vaped the same juice but with all this talk of federal bans, they aren't ordering more juice until they find out what's going on so I have spent so much money on trying other tobacco flavored juice and I just can't find another one I like so anyhow I know I just wrote a book, sorry about that. Also where is the best place for DIY juice? I don't know how central vapors is yet, so please my fellow vapors any info that you can give me would greatly appreciated  

My Heart Doc Says Keep Vaping

Today was follow up #2 to my cardiologist. A bit over a year ago my heart got all outta whack from years of bad habits.
Dude blamed it on smoking. So my next logical step was to start vaping.

A follow visit later I showed him my Aspire Rover X30 (w/D22 tank) and he high fived me. Next visit everything was good to go. So he put me on a bi-yearly schedule. This was visit #2.

He came in the room all happy at what an ekg, and other tests showed good signs. He asked if I still smoke and I said yes but while pulling out my vape pod and showed him. "I smoke a lot less now" I said.

He said "keep on vaping and some day you'll stop smoking". Agreed. He said come back in a year and if I'm not smoking anymore he'll pay for the visit. (about $500 total with tests).

Ironically on the way into the facility I had to put out a fire from a cigarette in a landscaped area where the mulch was smoldering.

Anybody else have a doctor who approves of vaping?  

Question For The Ex Long Term Smoker's

I've been trying to get my dad to quit smoking for two years now. He wanted to quit using an e-cig. However, he just can't seem to stick with it. He has been smoking for 30+ years. He smokes almost two packs a day.

I think the problem really is that he hasn't -tried-. As soon as he wants a real smoke, he lights one up. He only uses his e-cig is places he can't smoke.

He says he wants something that taste like tobacco. I've tried buying him numerous tobacco e-liquids. The closest was one from Ahlusion, but he still says it isn't like tobacco. He keeps saying he'll quit, but then he doesn't.

He has an ego with a mini protank, he seems fine with that. He isn't very amused by my mech mods and RTAs. lol.

I'm just lost as to what to do. A lot of people say to just stop telling him to do so and let him do it on his own. It is hard to just sit and watch him smoke though, esp when my mom had lung cancer just over a year ago (luckily, she did quit smoking with an e-cig and went into remission after radiation treatment). When I switched, I had only just started to smoke again (I smoked 3 years, quit, then started smoking again for about 4 months, then to an e-cig). I didn't like tobacco flavors when I started and almost immediately went to fruit flavors. He's tried those too, doesn't have much interest in them.

So my question to you ex long term smokers, what helped you make the switch? I feel like I just can't relate to smoking 30 something years.  

Will Batteries Be Next?

Yesterday Lightning Vapes sent out an email informing customers of their impending business and website name change to - WIREOPTIM. Excerpt -
"We will continue to carry many of the products you have come to know and love, however e-liquid will soon be a thing of the past, and batteries are likely to be absent as well."

I'm going to call them and hope to chat about this tomorrow - the owner is quite up on battery tech. I don't recall the details or exactly when, but I do remember some condemnation and warnings and label changes concerning 18650 bat use in mods. A year or two, three... ago? Not sure.
As I DIY most of my lquids my largest concern in the past weeks has been nicotine availability and I'm adjusting my budget for a bulk purchase for frozen storage. I think/hope wire, cotton and PG/VG and flavorings will be somewhat safer from the insane one-sided ban happy wildfire sweeping the US.
The battery comment caught me a bit off-guard, and I'm not quite flush enough atm to stock up on those at the same time. Even less flush to find and buy some lost vape duos or other LI-PO pack mods if anyone still makes them. LI-Po's are used in RC hobbies and are available on ebay and from battery supliers - might be the way to go forward if I need to break out my soldering iron and relearn to mod hardware. I hope I'm overthinking this but if this is more about money and not the "Save the Children" BS I've been listening to for a decade, they won't stop at flavors.
I'll report back if I get any thoughts from LV.
Until then any thoughts here? Is Mooch still participating on this forum? Guess I'll be re-researching longevity and storage of those cells in the coming days.
I began vaping 10 years ago this month - after smoking for 30 years - I'm 57 - haven't had a smoke since and I'm seriously f***ing pissed off. But that's for another thread.
Cheers
Mike