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I ordered a tank which is shipping from Canada to the US. The Fedex tracking says signature required - news to me. Is this Canada thing? And if so, does it still apply if I am not in Canada?  

I just received my first order from the US. They only ship via USPS so I had no choice of carrier. I ordered the Big Dripper V2 from Grand Vapor Station. It cost $65 and shipping was $35. USPS ships here and passed over to Phlippine Post which passes thru the greedy customs guys here. They opened the package and they insisted that it was some kind of turbo add on for a race car and taxed me 6000 pesos, that is about $136. More than what I paid for my atty and shipping combined. That is 15% of what they think the value of the item is. I really tried to argue and explain to them what it was but they wouldn't even believe what wsa printed in the Invoice. They lay their argument on the banner that says "Don't Drip and Drive" on the box and from there concluded that it was some kind of exotic and expensive car part. After customs I was charged VAT, Value Added Tax, of 4000 pesos, that's about $90. My atty ended up costing me around $300. The funny thing is based on their computation the atty is worth more than $1000.  

I wanted to do something for the community and created a very simple signature banner creator that details days (months, years) since you've stopped smoking, alongside some other details, such as savings in dollars as well as number of cigarettes you've avoided. Website also calculates some other details which may interest you

If you want to create your own forum banner, visit my site: E-Liquid Nicotine Consumption/Absorption Calculator

If you want to see an example of the banner it generates, look down below at my signature.
It's not perfect, but I think for many of us it may serve as a nice reminder that aside from saving money, we've decided to quit smoking and do something for our health.  

I've noticed some online shops are still shipping as USPS hasn't implemented its ban. Some only ship with the adult signature rule, others without.
Please let's develop a list.  

Usually when I need help with something vape-related -- perhaps trying to locate an out of production part, or even an issue with a vendor about a product I purchased I've not had much success dealing directly with vendors and I ultimately turn to the forum for help. I've even had some very nice members send me parts.

Most vendors will request a video --it seems that is their new thing -like they all got together with each other and said, "Let's make them send a video and hopefully they will go away" and I find it absolutely ridiculous. Geekvape, whose products I really like comes to mind.

Anyhow I made a few orders from Sourcemore recently and I have been happy with the service and orders. I've ordered a few mods and miscellaneous parts. They even included small related to my order freebies with my order which I thought was a nice touch.

On one of the orders I ordered a different panel for my Jackaroo mod. There was a sale and I ordered the G10 Green Anaconda panel -- a really nice one. I ended up receiving an American Eagle panel.

Nice panel but not what I ordered. I'm reasonable and I like it and will keep it so I was just going to go and order the Green Anaconda again and leave a note to make sure they ship the correct one. Well - they were out of stock (hence, why they probably sent a different one) and the price is more than double of what I originally paid so I wrote to them and attached a copy of the order.

They responded promptly and asked me to send a pic. I sent a few pics of the box showing American eagle and the panel. Received a nice note apologizing and they let me know they would send me the correct one. I was willing to pay for it because I am keeping the other one and I told them so. I would have been satisfied if they would have just honored the sale price from the original order.

This morning I received a brief email note again apologizing and they sent me a tracking number. Great service and I have already placed another good-sized order with them.

I am a fairly regular "orderer" and all I ask is that vendors make it right if there is an issue. And when I find a vendor that does just that I am loyal to them.  

Today in the mail, the snail mail, i received a large envelope from VUSE with a two page add for a new product and it was addressed to my name.

Now i know i havent used their product and i havent signed up to receive any info from them (VUSE). I also bought all my gear online from various Vape vendors and none of it was VUSE or any type of chepo vape cigs. So one of the vendors went behind my back and sold VUSE my info. I dont know which vendor but one of them did, looks like ill be getting more junk in my mail box.


 

lessifer petition has almost a thousand signatures

Petition · U.S. Senate, U.S. House of Representatives, President of the United States: Reject the FDA's Deeming of Vapor Products as Tobacco Products · Change.org  

Thanks to @440BB for starting the first thread, but it got out of hand and was closed.

But this is an important topic and I believe we should have an active thread about it as it is still currently underway. And as events unfold (and possibly change) we should be discussing it.

Lets try this again without so much emotion and political beliefs such that it changes the thread's topic and deters other from participation. And maybe "reptilian shape shifters" might be better-off discussed on some other forum or in the "Outside" section of ECF.

And remember, this is a shipping ban, nothing to do with the FDA deeming regulations - there's a thread for that.

Effective dates for the following major carriers...

FedEx - March 1, 2021
DHL - March 1, 2021 (unclear)
UPS - April 5, 2021
USPS - after March 22, on the date the final rule is published, no later than April 26, 2021. There seems to be some major conflict among what various sources believe as to when this effective date will occur. However, it is for sure, as @440BB stated in the original thread, after March 22 and no later than April 26.

Note that all carriers accept USPS are not actually disallowed by law from transporting vape supplies, they volunteered not to, most likely for a combination of reasons - requirements are strict and probably not profitable (but politics most likely plays a role, too).

Here is a link to the legislation that was passed that made this shipping ban possible.
Text - S.1253 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Preventing Online Sales of E-Cigarettes to Children Act
Notice that all vape is being banned for shipment by USPS as it states "any other substance", not just nicotine vape.

All online retailers that have sent notice about this seem to be saying they will refuse to take new orders after March 22. The dates each retailer has set range from March 23 to March 27 from what I have seen, so time is running out fast to order supplies online.

There is talk by some of the larger retailers that they have secured a new carrier that will be focusing on major urban areas. It remains to be seen if it will fly and if it will be a viable solution.

After this, barring some other major nail in the coffin, where B&M stores cannot get inventory, the only way to get anything will be in a local B&M storefront, where selection will be limited and priced high, and it will be rare to find nic base stocked for DIY.

As @440BB said in the original thread... "Time is near to get creative or be fully stocked up!".

But we are getting too close now that you don't have much, if any, time to make an informed decision on what hardware to buy and stocks are running out. As far as atomizers go, rebuildable atomizers WILL be your salvation as we enter into the vapocalypse.

But if you have enough gear and/or if money is tight, you should focus on nicotine base so you can DIY your own juice, unless you prefer store bought juice and are willing to vape whatever your local vape shop has in stock at any given moment. A list of nicotine base and glass bottle suppliers can be found here...
List of US Retailers Still Shipping 100mg Nicotine Base | E-Cigarette Forum

Please keep in mind that person to person (consumer to consumer aka C2C) shipments are still allowed but the current postal regulations severely restrict it. A summary of the C2C tobacco products postal regulations (well actually, only cigarettes and smokeless tobacco) (as I understand them) are as follows, but this could possibly change.

- Total package weight must be no more than 10 oz.

- Must be shipped using face-to-face service. In other words, must present package to postal worker at USPS counter. No pickups allowed. Proof of age and identity of sender must be verified with govt issued photo ID.

- Must be sent with "Express Mail" (I take this to mean Priority Express? - expensive, minimum $25 but more if Adult 21+ Signature service is required to be purchased - not clear on that. You will be paying retail rates since you have to buy this postage at the post office, so it might even be closer to $30+ all tolled just to ship one small package).

- Shipping label must bear real, full names of both shipper and recipient.

- Outside of package must be labeled with wording "PERMITTED TOBACCO MAILING – DELIVER ONLY TO AGE-VERIFIED ADULT OF LEGAL AGE"

- USPS will not deliver package to recipient. Package will be held at local post office for pickup and successful pickup will require proof of age and identity of recipient, verified with govt issued photo ID. Recipient must sign PS Form 3849.

- One person cannot mail more than 10 such shipments a 30-day period (meaning, you will likely be put in a database in order to track your identity and how many C2C tobacco product shipments you made in the last 30-days, which is why you have to ship it via a trip to the post office).

DMM Revision: Treatment of Cigarettes and Smokeless Tobacco as Nonmailable Matter​
 

I am pleased to present that Hopium is alive and well.

Big thank you to all the supporters of our hopium thread. A Glimmer of Hopium against the Vape Mail Ban

Vape business will continue as usual but you will see an increase in the shipping cost. This means that if you want lower-priced vapes you should still stock up before shipping prices increase. List of vendors below that will continue shipping. If you find more please add/share them with us.

Vendors:
Ecigmafia com - Source: Home page banner Madvapes com - Source: Email Update shared by ECF Member VaporDNA com - Source: Domestic Shipping – VaporDNA Eightvape com - Source: Memo Shipping Changes 2021 MyVpro com - Transition on April 2nd. Source: SHIPPING Misthum com - Signatures after March 26th. Source: Pact Act Statement ejuice .deals - working to find shipping network after April 26th. Source: PACT ACT - Ejuice Deals – eJuice.Deals. MVS (My Vapor Store) - Source: Shipping and Handling Info | myvaporstore.com  

There is a very old scan involving electronic cigarettes that has resurfaced. I just received a spam email today. The old scam was for cig-a-like cartomizer devices with pre filled cartridges. It appears they have "upgraded" to ego/Evod type units with tanks and bottle juice. Be advised you will be billed later if you keep the kit.

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General Agreement:
By submitting your order for the Fourteen Day Risk Free Trial Offer of the BLOW EZ Pen, you agree to our terms and conditions and agree to be automatically enrolled in the Auto-Ship Refill Value Plan. Your initial purchase of the Fourteen Day Risk Free Trial Offer of the BLOW EZ Pen includes a BLOW EZ Pen starter kit complete with a BLOW EZ Pen battery, a T2 BLOW Tank, USB and Wall Charger, and a Lanyard. You will also receive an additional T2 Tank, and 5 bottles of our V Smoke E-Liquid. Your credit card will be charged $7.95 to cover the initial shipping and handling fee for your Fourteen Day Risk Free Trial Offer. This initial shipping and handling fee is non-refundable. If after 14 days of placing your order for the Fourteen Day Risk Free Trial Offer you have not returned your product with a valid RMA number, your credit card will be billed for the full purchase price of the starter kit ($70.00) and for the initial shipment of Auto-Ship Refill Value Plan ($79.95) that was shipped with you order for a total of $149.95. You will continue to receive 5 bottles of V Smoke E-Liquid and a T2 BLOW Tank and be billed $79.95 + $7.95 shipping and handling every 30 days from the time the trial starts if you remain in the Auto-Ship Refill Value Plan. Please note that you may cancel your Auto-Ship Refill Value Plan at any time by returning the entire shipment of unopened V Smoke E-Liquid with the RMA number issued by our Customer Service Center. Partially opened packages of E-liquid will not be accepted outside of the fourteen day trial period. Once your subsequent Auto-Ship Refill Value Plan shipments are put into the ordering sequence they cannot be cancelled. This takes place seven days before the package is scheduled to ship. All Auto-Ship Refill Value Plan enrollments must be cancelled seven days or more before scheduled ship date to take effect for the respective order, or a valid RMA number will be required along with the physical product return to process your cancelation. Days calculated include transit time.