Msnbc Reports On Nic And Covid

Smokers 'four times less likely' to contract Covid-19, prompting nicotine patch trials on patients

That is just crazy. Nicotine patches to help prevent COVID-19.

Vape on and stay healthy my friends.  

COVID-19 Survey, July 2020



COVID-19 Survey, July 2020
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If you could fill in this brief questionnaire, it would be much appreciated. The more vapers will respond, the more useful the survey will be. We will let you know the survey results.

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I spotted this in an article about Covid.

"Meanwhile, the department is steadily turning back to its many pre-Covid-19 priorities. At the Food and Drug Administration, officials are returning to hot-button issues like tobacco and CBD regulations."  

hey All,

I joined here several months ago. Posted that I had done e-cigs for march to about June and then switched back to traditional and came back here for support and knowledge which I have received in spades here.thanks.

32 days ago I came down with low grade fever, 100.5 at most slights aches and fatigue..nothing major but certainly not ordinary. At the time I was back to 10-15 traditional cigs per day. But with the fever and fatigue I immediately stopped tradtional cigs--as I thought it could be Covid and honestly had no desire.

Turns out it was NOT Covid and in the 32 days I have had a total of 3 puffs from an e-cig in my desk drawer. I'm otherwise back to normal and only slightly crave a hit of e-cig and I know can use it I need it but the cravings only are short.

I think one part of this is with Covid and being in NYC--I'm not on the streets as much and I never see hardly anyone smoke or even vape. I do go to an office 4 days a week and the walk to the office is 12 minutes. And like a normal city--pre covid you'd always see people outside having a smoke or a vape and enjoying themselves and for me that's what kind of drove the cravings and addiction. now when I come home from work, I don't have a craving need.

After 32 days without a traditional cig and only 3 puffs of an e-cig --does that happen to people? In my head I have committed that I will be a non traditional cig smoker and if I need the e-cigs I'm fine with that. There is a slight concern that if we ever get back to normal and I " see" people smoke that might bring it back..who knows? Hopefully I am far along enough now that it wont' effect me. In fact I saw a bke messenger smoking at a stop light yesterday and just looking at the traditional cig kind of grossed me out. so maybe that's a good sign?

The benefits so far a my apartment and clothes smell normal. I have more energy and can breath better.

Maybe for me (and others) the visual appeal or or just seeing others enjoy a cigarette was part of the addiction?  

So there was a cell study published recently that took human and rat lung cells and exposed them to both cigarette smoke and e-cig vapor (with and without nicotine). Dr. Farsilinos responded saying that the study was bogus based on a detail he saw in one of the charts.

What happened is they were measuring the nicotine in molarity and not in milliliters. For those of you unfamiliar, 1M = 1 molar of solute in 1 liter of a solution. So, essentially 1 molar (1M) = 1 mol/L.

Dr F. concluded that they were using concentrations of nicotine that would never been seen in real life conditions (see the link above where he explains).

Dr. F's detraction resulted from a chart that listed the following concentrations of nicotine they applied to the cells. They we

.1 mM
.5 mM
2.5 mM
5 mM
10 mM

(A mM = millimole or 1/1000th of a mole).

Now, the molar mass of nicotine is 162.23g/mol. This means that 1M of nicotine = 162.23g. Since 1M = 1mol/liter, this means that there would be 162.23g of nicotine in one liter of their solution.

Now here's where I am wondering if Dr. F messed up his calculation. A millimole = .001 M. Thus a millimole of nicotine = .16223g (let's round to .16g). That would be .16g/L.

Now .1 mM of nicotine = 160g x 0.0001 = .016g/L. And so on for the rest of the chart presented in the paper. Here would be the conversions in grams per liter:

.5 = .08g/L
2.5 = .4g/L
5 = .8g/L
10 = 1.6g/L

Now, you are probably thinking, "Yes, but you have grams per liter. We need milligrams per milliliter. Therefore, you would need to move the decimal three places to the right. Hence, .016g/L would equal 16mg/mL. Right?"

Wrong. 0.016g/L = 0.016mg/mL. It's the same. It's something we learn in elementary school called cancellation.

The density of pure nicotine is 1.01g/cm^3. This equates 1:1 with mg/mL. Thus, the density of pure nicotine (undiluted) would be 1.01g/mL or 1010mg/mL.

Dr. F, is claiming that 10 mM =1600mg/mL. This is impossible as that is more nicotine than is possible to fit into one mL, even if it was pure and undiluted. (As I said above, pure nicotine is 1010mg/mL).

I conclude that Dr. F. is wrong when he says they were using 16mg/mL, 80mg/mL, 400mg/mL, 800mg/mL, and especially 1600mg/mL (impossible), etc. He moved the decimal place over when he shouldn't have. Or perhaps I am completely wrong and talking out my behind (I am not a chemist and admit I could be totally confused about molarity and the densities and masses of the chemicals here).

I know we have chemists here. I would like it if an expert would show me the error of my ways, which I fully admit is possible. Again, I am no expert. I'm just a guy who thought that surely these researchers cannot be so silly as to use outrageous amounts of nicotine such as 1600mg/mL!  

Well well well.

"French researchers to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers after lower rates of infection were found among smokers."
French researchers plan to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers | Daily Mail Online  

First published study showing that Juul can deliver a higher and faster boost in blood nicotine than most other e-cigarettes and similar to a cigarette. Nicotine Absorption Profile Among Pod-Based Electronic Nicotine Delivery System Users Any thoughts?  

This may be old but was informed and wanted to pass the info along.
See the link below!
Using COVID-19, Congress Bans USPS Vape Shipping  

I simply just want to hear from people who have not smoked cigarettes and began vaping 0 nic. Please do not lecture me on why you think I shouldn't start. I have done my research (and actually have vaped e-cigs before so I know what it feels like) and would just like to know that there are others in the same boat as me. I enjoy the variety of flavors to choose from and getting to create vapor without the addiction of nicotine. Once again, I will not vape with nicotine.

Thank you!  

Hello! So, for whatever reason, pre-employment nicotine testing is becoming a thing in my field. I use 6 mg juice, so I'm just going to switch to 0 mg. Everything I've read says 2 weeks should be good to pass the test. My question is, how much residual nicotine will be left in the vape from previously using 6 mg? I took it apart and cleaned it.... Is that sufficient? Or am I still consuming enough nicotine to fail a test?
Thanks!!