Well...it looks like US buyers' chances to buy vaping products from Chinese vendors and pay with PP...is likely coming to an end. I was just browsing Heaven Gifts again and the following jumped out at me. They have none of the major CC options listed for payment either. Glad I got in an order earlier last week and it was shipped already.
I now wonder how long before other Chinese vape products vendors will post something similar.
https://www.heavengifts.com/article/Suspension-paypal.html
I placed an order last night with no issues, but...
Notice--PayPal payment method will be suspended for most e-cigarettes items: FastTech Forums
Notice--PayPal payment method will be suspended for most e-cigarettes items
Dear valued customers,
We're very sorry to inform you that PayPal officially revised the Acceptable Use Policy regarding e-cigarette related products, transactions involving most of the e-cigarette products will be prohibited from now. Other payment methods such as cryptocurrencies and gift cards are not affected. Non-e-cigarette products on our website are also not affected.
Paypal claims that e-cigarettes belong to activities requiring approval. But the fact is there is no way we can get the pre-approval after confirming with Paypal.
We are currently connecting with new credit card payment processors and will try to get them online asap.
At the same time, we will keep communicating with PayPal at all times. Once there are any further updates of this policy, we will make an announcement.
We apologize for any inconvenience that this change may cause, and thank you all for your understanding and continued support.
Please do not hesitate to contact our customer service if you have any questions, as we will be very happy to assist you with anything you need.
Best regards,
FastTech Team
Just last Saturday I placed an order on Health Cabin and was able to pay via PayPal. However, last night I placed another order for items that were out of stock on Saturday. I placed my order, received the email confirmation, and info. that my order was pending payment, which has been usual since probably January. (There had always been instructions given then...about how to sort of "get around" PayPal's vape policy and still pay that way). I went back to HC to pull up my order and pay for it that same way, but found only Western Union as a payment option now. So, I contacted Support at HC. I just got the following email from them about paying for my order.
"Thank you for you big supports to HealthCabin.
Unfortunately, out of PayPal new policy to vaping related websites, we have to remove PayPal from our site now. You can see many vaping sites have removed PayPal about 1-3 months ago.
Now, we are sourcing new payment options and we will put them online in coming 2-3 weeks.
Right now, there are 2 options to process the payment:
1. Pay with Western Union, you can pay online or visit WU banks locally.
Check their website for more info: https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/home.html
2. Pay with deposit. For this option, you may send us money via bank wire transfer. We require minimum $200USD per transaction. Once payment received, we will add them to your account deposit, and you can use them to pay for future orders. We will show all detailed info about your deposit updates and happy to send you a receipt with our company official seal.
Let me know your thoughts, thank you."
I responded and definitely let him/her know my thoughts about it.
So, our options are steadily dwindling even more.
Got this email from Sourcemore at 2:01 this morning and thought I'd post it for those who aren't subscribed to their newsletter emails.
"Important Notice About Payment Methods - Sourcemore"
"You should have heard of the ban of PayPal towards all vape-related payments.
Unfortunately, our PayPal account was just restricted. We are unable to use PayPal to make or accept payment any more. Our balance is frozen for up to 180 days.
We have to remove PayPal from our website.
New payment methods such as Credit Card will be added ASAP.
Please check us back in a few days for further information.
You may also write to us if you want to get the latest update: service@sourcemore.com.
We will make sure to contact you once the new payment methods are online.
If you have any suggestions or questions, please let us know.
Thank you so much for you trust and support all the time.
We believe we will overcome this together!"
This video does a very good job of briefing us on what we need to know about the India ban. 42 million vapers (compared to about 10 million in the US) have been huge customers for the same Chinese products we buy. This hurts those companies and will effect us.
Has anyone bought anything from Heaven Gifts since they lost their ability to use PayPal?
Hi everyone,
Hope your all having a great weekend! Hopefully someone can help me figure out any good canadian or American reputable vendors for 18650 batteries for my arrow sense mod. Out of all the vendors listed in the battery thread, only one had the batteries I wanted, but it was in the US and would cost over $50 for shipping. Hoping to find shipping for $20-30 canadian instead. I am particularly interested in the batteries on the forums listed as tested by mooch in a stickier post. Or Sony battery with 2500 mah , I like to vape with two 18650 batteries at 60-80 watts.
I do not know if anyone else has posted about this topic, so here is mine. I recently tried to order a new tank and juice from a vendor on Taobao ( big online store in China), and was met with, "search not found", over and over again. I sent a Wechat (Chinese Twitter) to a vendor that I know in another city and was informed that the Chinese government had banned the sale of ALL vaping products. The reason? Well to stop children vaping of course. Apparently there is an epidemic (no pun), of kids stealing their parents credit cards, ordering hardware and juice and then hoping their parents do not intercept the parcels. Forgive me for being incredulous with this regard. So at a hand wave the Country that benefits the most from the vaping industry bans it from their own country! So vapers in the West think yourself lucky that your governments can not just railroad vaping as much as their sponsors would like them to. I am coming up to 11 years of vaping, going to be hard to keep going when a 30ml bottle of juice is Wechat selling for about $25 plus postage. Especially as I can buy a pack of MB red for just over a $. So I wonder how long I will be able to vape as I sip on my Corona V.
A while back Nicoticket did a lab test on all their juices and released the results publicly.
Nicoticket Testing Results | E-Cigarette Forum
This was a bold move on their part which has earned my outmost respect for coming forward and setting new standards.
My question is why we as a community have been so ignorant about knowing and demanding to know what's in our juice from our vendors?
If you know of any other vendors that have done lab tests (with publicly posted results) please let us know.
I think it's about time to send this message to our vendors that we do care to know what's in our juice. If more vendors come forward, other vendors would be more pressured to follow suit.
Cheers all...
Its been a bit since I've dropped by.
As more & more Bitcoin Atm's arrive on the planet,
I dropped by to see if there's suppliers listed by payment method?
June 2015..I still see reviews Positive & Negative,
Suppliers by county.
How many still buy online compared to Brick&Mortar?
I notice a big difference between Asia & USA in crypto currency use too but
was delighted to see US online vendors accepting BTC.
Oh btw I dont have any "relationship" to any vendors or cryptocurrency just observing
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong section, they do not seem to have an active ECF thread anymore. Please move if necessary.
This thread is not to smear them, but to ask if any current customers know what's going on with them.
I know they are still in business because they have a 2019 holiday sale posted on their home page.
Problem is, I placed an order on 12/2 (Cyber Monday) and my order is still in "pending" status.
I contacted them via contact form 2 days ago and no response yet.
Are they usually this slow and unresponsive? Or did they suffer a tragedy/loss?
I ordered from several vendors that day (US and China) & all have shipped within 48 hours. All the US orders have been long since delivered by now. In fact, I am fixing on getting an order from china delivered sometime this week as it has already been released by US customs. lol
I have never experienced such a long wait for shipping from any US vape vendor so I'm a little concerned. I don't like my money being tied up with vendors who say they have X in stock, but don't. Not saying this is the case with RockyMountainVapor, but I don't really know.
I see they are no longer an ECF supplier, so that is a bit disconcerting. I'm certain they used to be at one point.