What Will The Future Of Ecf Look Like .. ??

instead of hanging on to the Deeming thread. They really Aren't even close to the same thing.

Rightfully so, I L'dMAO at all this Deeming sillyness. Everything I've been using was Still totally available for the usual reasonable prices. Those places that blamed Deeming for their going out of business would have gone its up Anyway. (I put Juice Mixing in with owning a Liquor store or a Boobie Bar. How can you Possible eff that up??)

I'm not laughing anymore though.

This shipping ban will Likely bring a Screeching damn HALT to the vape world as we know it. I saw a poster say Well at least we still have our Local shops. Oh really, how do you think They're gonna get new stock shipped to Them??

If UPS starts Enforcing their Already Existing tobacco products Ban, that's IT folks, the Last even slightly open shipping door Slams Shut. And pretty damn soon too.

Thankfully I have about 2 years of hardware and about 1.5 years of juice left. I think my Plan B will involve a Bud in Canada shipping me stuff IF it's even still available There by the time I Need it.

I sure have missed the Demoncrats running my life for me. Not. I can't thank them enough for this shipping ban.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl  

If nicotine did not exist in any form of ecig product, would the government be looking to tax it all?

When I do not have nicotine in my body I become restless, irritable and generally unglued physically and emotionally until I put nicotine in my body.

I use 3mg nic but vape at least 21mg of nic per day....at least and probably more.

Many say nicotine by itself is not addictive. Through 40 plus years of using it I strongly disagree.

The vapors cause has a double edge to it. The government will eventually tax all ecig products but nicotine is the very reason the government can justify coming into the vape shops and tax to begin with  

Hey All,

I have recently been overwhelmed by some of the supporting advertisers to this site...

Frankly, I do not want to see the ads, nor have them read over my shoulders by others.

I was ready to sign off entirely, and just leave. (I don't really do/view much anymore as a more seasoned vaper)

But... I was informed/made aware of the Supporting Member thingy. What a novel idea! (once a Supporting Member, you no longer see the ads)

I would like to PIF a Supporting Membership to someone whom may not be able to afford it. It may be that some other members may be of the same mind/heart.

Any thoughts? Suggestions? Who shall my PIF'e be?

Thanks, Jim  

At 250 for a kit, are we seeing the end of provari? That name has been on this forum day and night for years, but really, custom box mods and high end mechanicals coming in at half the price, OR LESS? Do I hear a death rattle from the provari giant? Any long term member here has seen "get a provari" a thousand times, but those posts are fading into the locked section at a fast rate. Is anyone even considering one anymore? I'm not, and I used to want one more than any vape on the market.  

After being disappointed with the vape shops in Philadelphia, I saw an odd looking store that had "vapes" on an outside sign. It was a pawn shop! One section of the display case was filled with decent mods, and decent atomizers. It was better stuff than I saw in the vape shops. I bought a new still-sealed-in-the- box Pioneer4you iPV5 mod for $60. I found out later that the going price on elementvape.com is closer to $50. Lesson learned, knowledge and the willingness to haggle are necessary.

But still, this opens up possibilities as things get worse. Anything used, of course, would need to be checked out and should be discounted as used merch.

Its sad to think that things are coming to this.  

I am pleased to present that Hopium is alive and well.

Big thank you to all the supporters of our hopium thread. A Glimmer of Hopium against the Vape Mail Ban

Vape business will continue as usual but you will see an increase in the shipping cost. This means that if you want lower-priced vapes you should still stock up before shipping prices increase. List of vendors below that will continue shipping. If you find more please add/share them with us.

Vendors:
Ecigmafia com - Source: Home page banner Madvapes com - Source: Email Update shared by ECF Member VaporDNA com - Source: Domestic Shipping – VaporDNA Eightvape com - Source: Memo Shipping Changes 2021 MyVpro com - Transition on April 2nd. Source: SHIPPING Misthum com - Signatures after March 26th. Source: Pact Act Statement ejuice .deals - working to find shipping network after April 26th. Source: PACT ACT - Ejuice Deals – eJuice.Deals. MVS (My Vapor Store) - Source: Shipping and Handling Info | myvaporstore.com  

I am now living in the US, but will be moving back to the Philippines at the end of the month.

Got a question for vapers living in the Philippines ..... As you may know, many of the ECF members here living in the US purchase vaping items from companies like FastTech in Hong Kong due to the free (but slow) shipping, and pretty cheap prices on Chinese made vape items.

How about the Philippines ... Is it as easy to purchase on-line from companies like FastTech and have it delivered to your residence as it is here in the US?

Should be even faster delivery to the Philippines than here in the US since the Philippines is so much closer to Hong Kong than the US is.  

So, I know the major carriers are not going to ship anymore very soon. But that doesn't matter! Apparently, there is a shipping network that will ship VAPES! Could this be true? Well, I read it on MyVpro.com. So, I don't fully understand this. Private shipping networks can ship whatever they want and don't have to follow the PACT Act?!?!

Source (if your interested in reading): The Future of Shipping Vapes @ Myvpro – My Vpro  

Is there a list of who is shipping orders? I know some a couple of sites are shipping and others are not. Sorry, im sure you all are sivk of all the vape mail ban questions.  

OK, so I am an old fart who has depended on the ECF entirely (REOVille, Saloon, several e-liquid threads), and now I am thinking of swinging by the local vape shops to talk hardware.
Obviously, Kayfun (clones) will be discussed. Probably going to bring up Vapefly and Vandy Vape for MTL attachments. Will undoubtably take several bottom feed mods as well.
What else should crusty old farts who have been vaping longer than their store has existed try to convince the vape shop owner (manager) they should at least look into ?
Like it or not, they local B&M's just became out main source for hardware.