One of my facebook friends posted an e-cig article and the title of it was "e-cigs have 10x more cancer causing ingredients than cigarettes" . I would like to be there when they "test" these things so I could see how their testing them and what brand of e-cig their testing.
Hi,
I just read reports that pulegone, which is found in peppermint oil and is a carcinogen, are found in "minty" e-cigs.
Vape Pods Taste Minty Thanks to Extremely High Levels of a Chemical Banned in Food
High levels of cancer-causing chemical found in mint and menthol e-cigarettes: Study
This causes concern as I've been mixing my own juice using menthol crystals and PG, VG. I wonder if pulegone is found in menthol crystals too. As I understand, menthol crystal is derived from peppermint, just like pulegone, but that doesn't mean menthol has pulegone does it? It seems menthol has its own molecular structure.
Thanks
Do you know what I miss... I miss walking into my favorite Vape store and the people there are tooting over the latest and greatest Mod or device that just came out.
I miss seeing the group of trick vapers testing out there New " O " or " Jellyfish " and everyone taking videos or photos.
I really miss when I could sample flavors and get real genuine feedback on what others tasted like. When there were no Bans, No Hate demonstrated by the media, and the FDA trying to shut vaping down.
Here is some words for thought. . . With all the ban and all the hate why the F*** are cigarettes still around? I mean I know they follow guidelines but that .... is KNOWN to cause CANCER and DEATH! Why stop the only thing keeping me, you, family from them?
Backwards, this human species of law and order is so backwards.
I just want to Vape in Peace...
Is there anything more annoying than when people ask you if you're "smoking one of those fake things?"
I had 2 people today talking about the fakeness of vaping and how it's worse than smoking blah blah. I told them that the only real thing about cigarettes, is cancer. I also told them they smell like .....
End rant.
At first I was not too concerned about a flavor ban because my wife and I use no flavoring and I mix my own... But now Romney and some dude named Jeff have a bill on the floor that includes banning refillable cartridges. That scared the holy bejesus out of me. It sounds like they want all e-cigs to be like the "Mojo" (a disposable closed system).
The frustrating part about this current situation is that all of this seems to have started from some black market THC cartridges, which has absolutely nothing to do with vaping. PG is used in children's asthma medication and nicotine is really not much more dangerous than caffeine, but everyone out there thinks that e-cigarettes are killing people.
I think our first mistake was calling them "e-cigarettes" instead of something like "nicotine delivery device"... The name "e-cigarettes" just causes those that are clueless group them in the same category as cigarettes. Big Tobacco and Big Pharma are probably loving this right now. Smoking kills 450-500k people per year, as far as I know vaping has killed 0, but sure, go ahead and put severe restrictions on vaping. I know it saved my life, 12 years ago I could not manage walking up a flight of stairs, every time I laughed it ended in a coughing fit. Then e-cigs came along and all of that changed.
I wish there was some way to educate the public, especially our government officials.
E-cigarette cancer warning as new study finds mint and menthol flavour risk
The study of menthol and peppermint vapes revealed high concentrations of a carcinogenic additive called pulegone that US watchdogs recently banned in food.
The pulegone additive, a constituent of oil extracts from mint plants, is believed to cause liver cancer if absorbed in high enough quantities.
Mint, menthol e-cigarette liquids high in cancer-causing compound: study - Reuters
The findings, published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine
Vape Pods Taste Minty Thanks to Extremely High Levels of a Chemical Banned in Food
But despite all the evidence that pulegone is carcinogenic and causes liver toxicity, researchers found the chemical is present in mint and menthol-flavored e-cig liquid at levels far above a safe threshold.
This study is the latest in a growing pile of proof to how little-regulated e-cigs and vapes are. To illustrate that, researchers compared pulegone levels in mint and menthol e-cig liquid to levels in menthol cigarettes. At all levels of daily consumption, pulegone exposure from vape pods are significantly higher than exposure from cigarettes, with rates ranging from 44 to 1,608 times higher.
So much for Juul's best seller - menthol.
I'm looking at all the news reports just running and jumping with joy about the study that came out about teen vaping use today. I believe this was a catalyst that is going to get the general, non-informed "I'll do whatever you say and where do I check the voting ballot again??" public, right behind strict regulations and/or banning. My, how powerful manipulation is with what was once the minority, but what I'm afraid is now the majority in this country.
What is getting me is that almost ALL the commenters are stating that these are bad, very very bad and just look at "all the reports that are coming out about negative side effects." Where are they seeing reports about scientific study results regarding negative side effects and a link to cancer? Or is this just another case of "those people" that want to tell us all how to live imagining all these studies (one even quoted they cause cancer according to recent studies) in their little pea-sized non-independent thinking brains? I am just amazed at how the mind works with some people. How they can just "want something to be" and so, in their little minds, they have fabricated all these studies showing negative side effects and direct causes to cancer. Really?
I'm sorry if I sound ticked off. I'm just so sick and tired of watching a vast majority of Americans lose their ability to think for themselves and that are so content to be LAZY and just believe whatever it is they hear from the media. You know, you just can't fight stupid.
Perhaps folks who have posted documentation in a variety of spots would want to post it here as well. We could use a go-to thread when we're looking for solid evidence on a topic ("Just the facts, ma'am.).
Let's post only heavy-duty stuff, genuine documentation, not in-my-opinion pieces and the like. I'll start with these:
A document from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services ("These e-cigarettes are not considered smoking devices, and their heating element does not pose the same dangers of ignition as regular cigarettes.")
A 55-page study from the National Institutes of Health's National Center for Biotechnology Information ("The potential of significant adverse effects on bystanders is minimal.")
A 13-page study from FEMA's U.S. Fire Administration ("More than 2.5 million Americans are using electronic cigarettes [e-cigs or e-cigarettes], and this number is growing rapidly. Fires or explosions caused by e-cigarettes are rare. Twenty-five separate incidents of explosion and fire involving an e-cigarette were reported in the United States media between 2009 and August 2014.").
Today is my 3rd day since I last vaped and while the cravings are not as strong as trying to quit cigs, I definitely feel something is missing from my life. You know what I'm talking about.
I'm sure I can last weeks with will power but it's not so much the withdrawal symptoms or any adverse effect, but more of "gee a vape would be nice about now" that really makes this psychologically challenging.
I'm kind of debating whether I should continue. Does it get easier as time goes on? At least with cigs you know it's bad for you but with vape being "safer" the motivation to quit drops dramatically. If it's not going to get any easier than I'm not sure if it's worth the tradeoff...
Howdy friends of the clouds,
can anyone help with this?
I use a aspire skystar mod with freemax double mesh coils now again after a long time.
The skystar mod has a preheat option - just "soft", "normal" and "hard".
How do these differerent settings affect coils life? What is the benefit?
Much appreciated!
P.S. I am back to vaping from today, my parcel just arrived. Let's do something for our health. Will miss those cigs but...gootta be more responsible, I am almost 25 now. But why....anyway. I need a diary probably.
Vape-Related Deaths Are Scaring People Back into Smoking Cigs
Mark, a Massachusetts man who has worked at a vape shop for two years and requested anonymity for fear of losing business, said he had heard from many customers in recent days that they were making the transition—getting rid of nicotine-based e-cigarettes because of what they've been seeing in the media.
Although any shift was in the earliest of stages, it was still a remarkable concern for tobacco-control experts like Michael Siegel, a professor of community health sciences at Boston University, who views getting smokers off traditional cigarettes to be the primary public-health matter. Even now.
"There are two big fears here," Siegel said. "That former smokers are going to return to smoking cigarettes, because they'll think, Why not just have the real thing? And also that smokers who might have otherwise wanted to try e-cigarettes won't any longer."
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What hast thou wrought?