Confused About "general Vaping Discussion"

Given some of the discussions in other threads that have taken over the original posters reason for the discussion and purpose of that thread . . . AND - Although there are other threads already having this type of discussion/discourse that people ignore or pass on (Don't really know their reasons why they refuse to post there where the same discussion is happening) . . . SO - This thread is only being created to hopefully move the ongoing disruptive conversation in other threads and have a specific thread opened for that discussion - instead of having it spread through-out so many other threads - in effect changing the main topic of discussion and why People are there in the first place . . .

This threads main purpose is to discuss and/or further debate - of course following ECF (This is NOT "OUTSIDE") - these personal opinions and commentaries . . .

SO - What is it that you perceive is going to happen - once Deeming Regulations, Federal, State, an even Local laws/restrictions are passed (or already have been passed) . . . AND - Are actually finally enacted . . .

The Government Does Nothing - Only the present Rules & Regulations go into effect, People over 21 will still be able to continue to purchase vape products (maybe with some limitations), Vape in their home/cars/designate areas out in public . . . Will there be current or even more - Grey Market - Black Market . . . Will there be Police Raids (both on commercial venues/private homes) - Products Seized by Customs - Arrest made for "Vaping" in public and or for distribution when sharing with others/passing along equipment/e-liquids, etc. to Family & Friends - Or for "Vaping" while driving . . .​


OKAY - If Ya' got something to say or an opinion or better yet actual FACTS to share - here is the thread to do it . . .

JUST REMEMBER - This thread is NOT "OUTSIDE" and Civility is a MUST for everyone - NO, Matter what your personal views are . . .



Have Fun. . . .

EDIT: BTW - I have absolutely no intentions on participating in this discussion/discourse - nor provide any personal insights/opinions/feelings about this subject - this thread is here to allow everyone else a place to do so and keep it out of other on going threads that have nothing to do with future conjecture/s of their personal perceived opinions of "What Is Going to Happen" . . . Just Sayin' . . .


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I still remember better times, when I would open a "General Discussion" forum and see only today's posts. Yesterday's posts I could find only at the bottom of the second page. What I see now? Only ten (10!) threads are recent. And at the end of the first (FIRST!) page I see 3 threads that are four (4!) days old. Sad, isn't it? I loved ECF...  

A future that looks very bleak for vapers here in Europe. So I keep stocking up on stuff that I hope will see me through the worst of it. I recently got a small mod that takes interchangeable batteries. However it is the vv kind. My question is - supposing whatever controls the vv dies, would the mod still be functional?

Sorry if this is in the wrong place but it seems like a general question and I couldn't find a specific place for it.  

I'm sure this question was ask before, but I can't find it.

For the people who use to smoke cigarettes, did you really feel a change health wise after switching to vaping?

Like:

Lungs capacity
Less tired
Sleeping better
General well being
...

I know it's been only 12 days for me, but I can't really see any changes health wise.

Thanks  

Hi Guys,

I've been vaping for 5 years or so. The main reason I quit smoking and took to vaping was I confess, not for my health, but for my purse. As we all know cigs are too expensive and I actually love vaping more than I ever liked smoking.

Anyway, I'm also set in my ways. Except for a brief foray into tanks, I have used low res cartomizers and have been happy. Now, I am finding it impossible to buy cheap Boge cartos so apparently while I have been happily vaping away without hanging out in the vaping community, the world has moved on and there are all sorts of new fangled products on the market. But, most of the new stuff is ridiculously expensive! I'm just a poor girl, I don't wanna buy fancy crap. Right now I am using an Iclear 16 tank and I gotta say it sucks compared to Boge cartomizers. I use a ton of juice (I make my own juice cuz it is wayyy cheaper) and the wicks only last a couple days compared to 2 weeks for cartos.....What gives?

Isn't there a CHEAP way to vape anymore? I don't wanna buy expensive mods, I use these 10 dollar pass-through rechargeable batteries and everything is cheap and hunky dunky....

Any suggestions on a cheap cheap cheap replacement for cartomizers?

Thanks!

Annie  

it seems like lot of information regarding how to use mod safely is not available to general public. i keep hearing people blowing up their mod and getting hurt. i'm sure pamphlet with safe use of mod and other information won't completely prevent accidents, but it should cut down on the problems.

when i started thinking about vaping, it was almost impossible to find simple information to use the mod. nothing really out there unless you start digging into forums and other resources to get the idea of what need to be done.

lot of general public who are interested in vaping won't try to dig into what will need to be done. they will buy stuff, put them together in some sort of fashion and will be disappointed or blow themselves up.

why not make some simple tri-fold pamphlet and have the B&M and online outlet to send out with every order? with big warning "READ THIS FIRST OR YOU MIGHT LOSE FINGER OR TWO OR AN EYE OR TWO".  

Perhaps folks who have posted documentation in a variety of spots would want to post it here as well. We could use a go-to thread when we're looking for solid evidence on a topic ("Just the facts, ma'am.).

Let's post only heavy-duty stuff, genuine documentation, not in-my-opinion pieces and the like. I'll start with these:

A document from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services ("These e-cigarettes are not considered smoking devices, and their heating element does not pose the same dangers of ignition as regular cigarettes.") A 55-page study from the National Institutes of Health's National Center for Biotechnology Information ("The potential of significant adverse effects on bystanders is minimal.") A 13-page study from FEMA's U.S. Fire Administration ("More than 2.5 million Americans are using electronic cigarettes [e-cigs or e-cigarettes], and this number is growing rapidly. Fires or explosions caused by e-cigarettes are rare. Twenty-five separate incidents of explosion and fire involving an e-cigarette were reported in the United States media between 2009 and August 2014."). ​
 

I joined this forum 8 yrs ago. After a couple of years of learning and contributing, I moved on, continued to check back every once in a while but never stopped vaping. I very rarely buy premixed juice, maybe 2-3 times in the past 5 years so when all these lungs issues came up and every other news story was about how vaping was going to kill you, I knew that I was probably OK since I make my own juice. Then it started to sound like there was actual medical proof that vaping was leading to serious lung, heart, etc, disease. Damn near threw all my gear out after reading news stories from several reputable resources confirming my worst fear.

Then I decided to come back here. I can usually pick out the BS pretty quickly and my hackles are already up from having to fend off endless well meaning "you have got to stop vaping!!! " conversations and obvious postings of the news stories on FB .

I grant you that I want all these warnings to be wrong because I love vaping, I really do. It does not make me cough, it doesn't stink up the house and I was pretty confident that it was saving my life. So I'm really kinda POed about all this crap. And I know I'm not alone. I want honest answers and that's what I came here for. After reading just a few threads I'm feeling more relaxed (or is it because I'm sucking on the nautilus mini like a milk shake...). I'm certainly not going to throw anything out...just yet. Anyway, thanks for still being here, nice to drop in .  

Currently, I have a eGo One and I like it, but I want more vapor. I also use a higher VG mixture, because the PG kinda messes with my stomach, so it doesn't really taste "right" out of it. Plus the tank is very small (I run out of juice quick when I'm with my friends), the coil is very small (tried rebuilding it and I broke one and managed to open up the other), and the windows are almost useless because they're so tiny.

I'm really new to vaping in general, up until a little over a month ago I just hit my friends ecigs whenever I was bored or was out of cigs. I've looked up a little bit of info about mods and stuff, but I'm not really sure how to maintain them. I know the basics, you make a coil yourself, position it and add cotton.
But I need help with questions like:
When do I need to refill it? Do I have to replace the coils all the time, or clean them off? Does it matter what coil build you do? What kind of battery do I need?

Anyways, I could use these questions answered, and also I'd like to hear your opinion's on good/ user friendly RDA's. There's so many, I have no idea which one to pick.  

I was gonna post this in the Media and General News forum, but I figured it would get quicker & more exposure here. I've also posted it in my state CASAA ffb group, and asked Kristin to post it on the main CASAA group ffb page.
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