Cotton Under Electron Microscope

There was a thread yesterday about possibility of getting sick from cotton dust. So I decided to make a few pictures.

First picture - organic cotton ball. We can see cotton is rather clean, but not 100% clean.




Next picture - cotton fibers from the middle of Koh-Gen-Doh pads, it is also pretty clean.



And the last picture - the same Koh-Gen-Doh pad, just higher magnification.





These pictures - just for fun. No scientific discoveries for today.  


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Subtank Sizzle....

I just got some japanese cotton pads and I have been building my rba section in subtank for a little while with organic cotton balls and have noticed that after I take a puff off of it I get this sizzling after I let go of the button I've read it could be to much cotton but I tried a very little amount of cotton and still get sizzling.. I'm using twisted 30 awg. Reading at .4 any idea?  

Is Organic Cotton Harmfull ? (calling Everyone!)

Hello to everyone,
I always had doubt about cotton and I was investigating it. I talked to few doctors and they all say the same thing in my country but when i talked to other doctors from other countries I couldnt get much information and I believe the reason is explained well in the following message that I received from a doctor.

I'm calling every doctor and people who use cotton in ecig as a wick, also aspire company as they started to use organic cotton in every coil they have.

Today I have received a scientific explanation from the doctor and I'm translating it.

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First of all this sickness usually not known by US or German doctors, because they have high hygiene in their cotton factories. This issue is known by 3rd countries like Turkey and other countries where there is no hygiene in cotton factories and employees inhale cotton dust.

It is under pneumoconiosis category and the sickness name is Bisinosis. The doctor reported; every year many employees who are working in cotton factories that are lack of hygiene and filter getting bisinosis sickness and dead from bisinosis, because of inhaling cotton dust for a long time.

He said it is not important if it is organic or not, the important thing is the particle of cotton. The particle of a cotton is 0,5-5 micron. The problem is the cotton gets burned even with temperature controlled devices because the cotton fire range is so low and this can be detected with a microscope not by eyes. The cotton does not need to be burned and turned to black color that can be seen by eyes. Its particles are burning even with a very low heat at 3.0v and wet with liquid, that can be seen under the microscope only.

When the cotton is burned, that cotton micron diameter goes down from 0,5 to lower diameters and turns to a dust which can be seen by microscope only. Those burned cotton dusts goes to the lungs and stays there because the human body is surely unable to absorbe it as it is not organic anymore because of burned particles.

He clearly state this; The cotton dust cannot be absorbed in lungs and will result bisinosis in time which will lead to dead for sure he says. If it was tolareted and absorbed, there wont be a sickness called bisinosis and people who are working in cotton factories wouldnt die in the past from bisinosis sickness.

He also add this, people working in cotton factories inhaling cotton dusts which is not burned already causes bisinosis sickness, I cannot imagine what burned cotton dust is going to do because its micron diameter is smaller than normal cotton dust due to fire damage, maybe those employees getting bisinosis between 10 -15 years but in ecig case, burned cotton may speed up the process of the sickness.
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Final Notice from the doctor; Above information makes cotton %100 dangerous to inhale and will result bisinosis in time soon or late even with temperature controlled devices. Employees are working in 3rd country cotton factories where there is no filtration are not inhaling warm cotton and they are already getting bisinosis, again this sickness is known by 3rd countries which cotton factories have no hygiene and filtration. I hope this will make sense, for everyone who use cotton in ecig.

So, the doctor explanation is above and enough for me to not to use BVC coils anymore also cotton unless someone make a different scientific explanation to above doctors information and make it wrong.

It is clearly understandable if you use cotton in ecig, no filtration(you cannot filter it as the particles can be only seen by microscope), it will surely will cause bisinosis one day as you are inhaling cotton particles in to your lungs which is surely not absorbed.

What bisinosis is: Byssinosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Byssinosis, also called "brown lung disease" or "Monday fever", is an occupational lung disease caused by exposure to cotton dust in inadequately ventilated working environments)

UPDATE:
I just received a second opinion from another DR, MR Farsalinos send me the following email after I ask him the above explanations.

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First of all, i have a question for you. Has the doctor who told you about byssinosis informed you about silicosis? It is a disease which is caused by inhaling silica dioxide fibers. That means, silica and ekowool fibers used as wicks (alternatives to cotton). Silicosis is even more common than byssinosis.

Byssinosis is almost exclusively observed in workers in cotton processing. So, most likely it is dust from the spores of cotton which cause the disease. Processed cotton does not have spores or other type of dust. It is possible that cotton fibers may cause a disease, which is not byssinosis, and i found only 1 case report of someone who developed some form of disease due to cotton fibers. But he was exposed to huge levels of cotton dust every day for many years.

I find it unlikely that the cotton wick will cause byssinosis, but of course none can be 100% sure. However, i think that silica and other alternatives may be equally (if not more) problematic. So, please stay calm.
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So, second opinion is clear my mind now and made me calm.
 

Bug Bits Abound ( In The Cotton )

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So I thought I'd have a look at the cotton sample in my Kanger Subtank Mini & .. sure enough ... bug bits & little black "dots" (bug poop I assume). Okay ... fine ... I've not used it & will not use it. I have enough cotton (bacon) to keep me going for years, and I'm happily puffing away on the .50ohm OCC premade coil supplied by ........

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I can't find the post, but someone recently posted a helpful YouTube video on how to change cotton in a Kanger Subtank coil. I had no idea it was so easy, and I'm going to try it on my old coils. I've saved the video for future reference. My question is: how do you know when you need to change the cotton vs. when you need to change the entire coil? I don't think I'm up to doing my own coils yet. Is changing cotton just a way to prolong their life a little longer, and do you get to a point when you have to redo the whole shebang? Also, does any cotton from a vape store work, or do you need a specific kind depending on what kind of coil you have?  

Could The Way You Wick Change Flavor?

I just re wicked my coils and now the flavor seems muted. I used more cotton this time but not sure if it's that or the cotton itself. I usually dry burn and re wick about 2 to 3 times before replacing the coils and this would be the first time I've re wicked these coils. I use Japanese cotton I ordered from fasttech. Has anyone had issues with their cotton? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.  

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Having given up anologs with my Nautilus Mini, I thought I'd treat myself to an authentic Kayfun v4.

My first rebuildable. It vapes great, lots of dense smooth vapour, but the cotton tastes awful!!

Tried cheap cotton from the chemist. Tried Koh Gen Do. The best so far has been Klaud cotton, but there's no denying it. While the vapour is superior to my Nautilus the taste is no where near as good.

Everything in my Kv4 tastes of cotton with a hint of the juice flavour.

I've watched all the videos on you tube, it's wicking fine, but cotton just tastes bad!




7wraps, 3mm ID, 28g Kantal, 1.4 Ohms.

Promised myself a Vapor Flask DNA40 for the Kv4. But if I can't get it tasting better
then this the Kayfun can go in the bin, I'll stick with the Nautilus Mini's on iStick 20w's.  

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For the first 18 months I was constantly buying new coils. I work from home so I can basically vape all I want and I vape A LOT. I use Swagger as my ADV and it will destroy a coil in just a couple days. It was becoming difficult to even find coils to buy and it was getting expensive, so I did some research on rebuilding my own coils. At first I tried to build them with silica wick, but I could never get them to work right. Using 1mm silica wick wrapping around a stick pin the wraps would always be too big and there was lots of leak/gurgling. So I went the cotton route and would wrap around a 1/32 drill bit and then slide the cotton through the coil. Works great, perfect ohms, great flavor. I've been doing this for the past six months. In the first 18 months of vaping I never got sick once. Since I've been using the cotton wicks I've been SEVERELY sick twice (probably a respiratory infection but never went to the Doc), and now I feel like I'm getting sick AGAIN.

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