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Hi all, I have a bit of a concern.

I have been storing many of my e-juice in the fridge for about 3 months. These are mostly juices in my stockpile that are 6 months or older that I stored in the fridge just as summer started to get hot in Australia to try and preserve them knowing I wouldn't get through them all before their expiry dates.

I was apprehensive about storing hundreds of dollars of my precious juices in the fridge at first so I trialled it by storing a few bottles in the fridge for a month and then sampled them. They seemed to be fine so I went ahead and put boxes of juice in the fridge.

After 3 months of having juices I sampled two bottles of naturally extracted tobacco juices which are fairly sweet. I filled tanks with those bottles right out of the fridge.

I am finding both juices have lost some sweetness and taste a little flat. Even after the juice in the tank warmed up during the day it still tastes lack lustre and has lost its sweet edge. They tasted fine before I put them in the fridge. I now have grave concerns for the 50 or more bottles of juices in the fridge, some which I haven't even opened.

The way these juices are tasting is worrying. I stored my juices in the fridge to preserve them but now I fear I have done the opposite.

I have taken both bottles out of the fridge and will let them sit at room temperature and give them both some vigorous shakes and see if the flavours are restored.

Has anyone else had experience with storing pre-mixed Liquids in the fridge?  

I can only get about a 1-2 day life span out of coils that are organic cotton based. After 1-2 days, they start seeping a dark colored liquid into my tank and ruining the juice. This has happened in my Atlantis tank running Melo coils vaping at 32 watts and my Herakles tank running 55 watts. Keep in mind I vape about 7-10ml a day. Juices are 70VG/30PG or 80VG/20PG all at 3mg nic.

On the flip side, if I vape old school Atlantis coils at 32 watts on the same juices, I get a full week before this happens.

Any ideas on how to make cotton coils last longer?! For this reason, I can't wait to get my Lemo 2 in. I'll be able to rewick daily and not worry about cost.

The way things are going, I am losing so much money on coils it's nuts. See picture to see whats happening.

Oh yeah, this is happening on all kinds of juices I vape. Mt Baker Vapor, Vista Vapors, 4 Pillars, The Milk Man. Some are budget juices - others are premium. No matter what juice I use, it happens.

The BIGGEST killer is Zeus Juice with 80%PG, 20%VG. This juice kills a coil in one tank full. I'm guessing the sweeteners in that juice do it.

It's frustrating because I LOVE my Herakles tank running at 55W but if I have to replace the coil every 1-2 days, that's SO expensive.  

So I've got a bit of a convoluted question. I've been vaping for about 8 years and followed most of the trends. Spent a fair amount of time in deep subohm territory with freebase juice, low nic levels, lots of thick flavorful clouds. Over the last two years I've gravitated towards the salt juices with the tiny mods and PIP coils. The cost of replacement coils is getting annoying when combined with the cost of salt nicotine juices in comparison to the freebase bottles I used to buy. To address this I've tried building my own high ohm coils on the SMOK Rpm rebuildable head. Results have been less than satisfactory.

For what ever reason, even when I can block the airflow and build a high ohm coil..the flavors in salt nicotine always taste awful, nothing like what they taste like in the rpm 1.0 coil. As near as I can tell, the only reason I can think of is the different style of wicks..inner cool wick for a DIY vrs outer wick for the smok prebuilts.

This got me thinking of building a juice that's a bit heavier and smoother with a higher vg content and flavor content to work in a DIY coil (prob something simple like a single 26-28 gauge spaced wrap) but still pack some of the nic punch (sans throat hit) as a salt based juice..and will still work in a pod device. I'm thinking it would probably need to be in the 12-15mg nic range to get a similar buzz as the 25-35mg nice I usually vape at low power.

Is this even feasible..or are the flavors and thickness of the old style free base juices incompatible with salt based nicotine? A 40pg/60vg juice with a 12-15mg salt nic level that will work on a .8 single coil at 10-15 watts or so I think. And not taste awful.

In my state it's becoming problematic to source flavors other then basic tobacco.. so it might be time to go strictly DIY with a pod type device.

Thoughts?  

Just curious how you guys go about vaping through your juice bottles. I buy 30 ml bottles usually. I have a few tanks and dedicate a specific bottle to each tank. I make myself finish off a bottle before I go onto my next juices. If I decide to put a half bottle away and try a new flavor, I'd have a bunch of half bottles laying around and it would annoy the hell out of me.
I have a couple 60 mils on the way though, so I suppose I wouldn't mind stashing those halfway through. I suppose it could be way different for people that drip though.  

I will be making some juice. Yes, I know how to do it, but then comes the question about how to sweep it quickly. I've heard some people purchasing a ultrasonic cleaner (wish I had the money), and for every 2 hours of doing it this way, it sweeps the juice (if done the old fashion way) 2 weeks. I'm all for that. Now, what if you took a beater and beat it for 20 mins? Would that be mixing up the stuff inside really good? Now comes the next part. Let's say you make enough juice for 1 month (in my case 1000 ml) and place this in 4 jars. All the jars get the beater treatment. Then I take one jar and use that for the week. Wouldn't the other jars be sweeping and then finally catch up? Or maybe I don't understand this sweeping at all.
Now for the next question: I just when from coils to mesh. I love it! Not having to change our a coil for 2 weeks is great! Okay, now the mesh I have in my tank now says 50-80 watts (I guess). Is it okay to still vape it at 40 watts, as 50 is a little hot for my taste.
Thanks all for your help in this.  

I have found that my body and my throat doesn't like 50/50 ratio juices, and I much prefer everything about high vg juices, lowest being 70% vg up to 100%vg. But i have only found a couple of high vg juices at my local store. Any suggestions?

God bless!  

So basically boils down to if you don't mix your own juice after the ban, he won't be able to get it pre-made juices?  

I was surprised by this chart that I recently came across.

It shows that the USA is the biggest market by far for vape products.

There are still over a billion, old fashioned tobacco smokers in the world. Vaping has been around for many years already, yet there are only slightly over 40 million vapers in the world, of which I am proud to call myself a part of that wise group.

With all of the anti-vape propaganda and nonsense taking place, it seems that there is a movement out there to keep those billion+ cig smokers hooked on their cigs and also to deny the 40+ million vapers out there the freedom and the choice to remain cig free.

I guess it's better that millions of people die from cancer, because vaping is just pure evil and the work of satan, or something like that. Oh, and think about the kids. Nevermind the kids who would previously just start smoking plain old regular cigarettes before vaping ever existed. That was never a big deal.

Here is the chart I found showing the top vape markets in the world.

And notice how there are no third world countries on the list? Isn't vaping banned in India? That's insane. That country has a huge population. How stupid of them. Their actions are contributing to the deaths and diseases of an awful lot of people.


And here is a link to the article which the chart came from:

How many people vape?  

There are so many vape shops in my immediate area now that I can't even keep track of them all.

Even though I still qualify as a newbie vaper, since I've only been vaping for a few months, I now know enough about vaping to know a terrible vape store when I see one.

I was in a vape shop some weeks ago, and what I witnessed shocked me.

This vape store sold the typical premium juices and brands that you'll find everywhere and they also sold some hardware, like clones and mods.

They also had their own brand of cheap, in house juice which they sold and which they would also give out to customers as part of their rewards system, where customers who earn enough points will get a small, free bottle of juice.

While I was in the store looking around, another customer was there and they were getting a free bottle of that in house juice, and they were sampling different flavors, to see which one they wanted.

The sales person asked the customer what nicotine level they wanted, and after the customer told them, I saw the sales person walk towards the middle-back of the shop, and in less than 30 seconds, the juice was mixed and ready to go. The sales person was just eye balling the nicotine content! And it was being mixed right there in the open, in the middle of the shop!

I don't need to be an advanced vaper to know that this is not good at all, and I am shocked that somebody with such bad knowledge would even dare to open their own vape store. Needless to say, a vape store like that probably won't stay in business for long, when there are so many other better options around, with more knowledgeable people working in them.  

Looking at the charts, I would like to keep what I do in the green zone. What I cannot find is a chart that goes low enough in ohms to tell whether or not what I am doing is okay. My latest atomizer build is a .4 ohm on a Plume Veil. I use it with max airflow, side windows open full and top cap open allowing air. Excellent vapor production (for me anyway), at 7 watt - 1.7V (IPV2X mod reading). So where do you think that type of build would land in the charts. Safe to say I am in the green zone? I guess maybe I have developed some paranoia with this formaldehyde thing that has been floating around the internet. Does anyone know where to find a chart or calculator that goes from .1 ohm on up and indicating the safe areas?

Thanks,
Charles